That's me and Vic feeneeshed! Bad enough not getting a song played, (from a pure dead brilliant selection, by the way!), but to then be credited with a song I didn't ask for is too much. Vic has pulled this shit on me before. I ain't gonna take it no more!
I was gonna quote Norrie, but then Norrie would have to moderate Norrie's quote, thus putting Norrie in an awkward position. So, as a favour to Norrie, I won't even mention it. Neither Ah will...
Ah.. I had a PFM album circa 75/76? It was rather good, good keyboards if I remember correctly. I also had a Greenslade album I was fond of but it's deleted now.
Henri I recall back in the day it being announced in Sounds that Pete Sinfield had signed PFM to Manticore & effectively making them stablemates with ELP.
They did a prog night once before when our hero was off - it was a fiasco as they kept on cutting the tracks. Vic keeps on saying he "likes a bit of prog" but produces spectacularly poor evidence to support it.
It'll be another fiasco - still, there's always the prospect of Ella getting another outing.
Youse were warned. i didn't hear it and shall await the palylist but it'll be a collection of singles issued to draw attention to albums - seldom what the album is about. ther has never been a prog night or any airplay for jethro tull on GIO that was other than 'living In the fecking past".
The trouble is, as soon as you complain it only seems to highlight how appropriate the song is.
Now this isn't directed at anybody but I celebrating 27 years married to Madame Popkiss & therefore a little merry... " but your wise men don't know how it feels... "
Don't worry Billy Saturdays rant on Farcebook has been vindicated. We seem to have poked the wasps nest with a big stick... 133 comments for a genre such as Prog, who'd have believed it.
Morrissey's auto biography arrived this morning - I was momentarily jubilant, thinking this will surprise and edify.I'll be taken aback, I thought, delighted.
I only got half way down the first page when I stopped: it's all true, he really is a miserable bastard.Or a Lennonesque self publicist.
This is no page turner, written in 'clever' convoluted and sometimes impeneterable English - and as I say, I'm half way through page 1. Last time I read anything like this was when Pat Kane used to write for The Glasgiow Herald.
Penguin 'classic' - error of judgement there.
I'll have another go tonight, it's going to be a a long slow cumbersome read.
We don't even know if it's the majority, it's just those on FB. Pure hunners (according to their listening figures) don't make any input at all. They're probably harassedly making tea, getting the kids ready for Brownies and chanter practice, wishing someone would take the dog out and vaguely wondering why they're hearing that same **** song yet again, asking themselves why everyone else is apparently settling down to a gourmet meal and a bottle of wine while at their house it's Tuesday, mince & tatties and a battle to get the kids to eat some broccoli. Way too pre-occupied to even consider doing anything about the crap music on the radio. Or else they're on their way home, stuck in traffic and trying to keep calm , wishing someone would destroy radio Scotland's entire stock of Queen songs but sure as hell not about to settle down to a spot of texting or facebooking to complain about it when they get home and dinner's on the table or isn't even started.
The smug complacency of the producers is a thing to behold, and of course is encouraged by the sycophancy of those who wish to remain on the favoured listener list. I'd be astonished if BB really enjoys presenting the same old songs and themes over and over and over again.
Yes...good succinct stuff Frank. Could you please request 'If I Could Only Be Sure' by Nolan Porter, 'The Rat' by The Walkmen and anything by Pokey Lafarge please cos they sure as hell won't entertain any of my requests now ;o) J from E x
It was the inner hebrides for me.........with the disgraceful sound of the shooters out early morning all guests at island house.....occasional residence of the duke but as often full of bird hunters...they kill geese , pheasant, snipe.....then drive round the island with the dead birds on open display sometimes tied to the back of the lackie's jeep....once a bad shot burst a water pipe...sad example of humanity and the ruling class.
There have been some very negative comments right here on our very own notblog. I may have to ban you all and set up a notthenothegetitonblog page on facebook
I've not seen so much blood on a page since page 117 of MacILvanney on Boxing which is the page I'm at just now.
I'm surprised at the tone GIO has taken with the Blog with its maximum of 20 but more usually 10 inhabitants - that scathing remark seems to be at odds with the programmes inclusive nature - but play the 'numbers game' - often the members of the blog offered multiple choices, sometimes maybe even 20 each of a weekend which amounts to hundreds of suggestions; long before it became fashionable over on f/b. No good will come of this little spat - I say as a BBC stakeholder - the issue of switching off doesn't sit with the financial input I have with the BBC.
I'm not even so sure that BB has such an input into the music - not by the comments anyway.
*sigh* it's just as well I'm a master of cut & paste - here's what they said:
"There have been several comments on here over the last few days about the music choices on the show – first of all we want to let you all know how much we value and appreciate all the efforts you go to make the show the success it is. It is important though that those who are looking for the programme to move in a different direction appreciate what Get it On is all about.
The ‘prog’ theme is of course like many themes open to the interpretation of our listeners and I am sure we could all sit round a table in the pub and debate for several hours the merits of artists included in the playlist. Every track we play has been requested by someone listening and each of them requests something that is a favourite to them. We are of the firm belief that music is …music – it’s not good or bad, right or wrong, it’s just music. We all enjoy different styles and artists and wouldn’t the world be boring if we all loved the same thing. In addition this is a popular, mainstream music programme and by its very nature will play popular tracks. From time to time a theme will dictate that there are more obscure, less mainstream tracks, but this is not the backbone of our show. We want all the family to take part – and they do. We are as delighted to hear from a young person asking for One Direction as we are from someone asking for some Scottish tracks from our past or a bit of ‘cheesy pop’.
We have over 6000 followers on Facebook, we reach over 8000 people a week on Facebook. We believe you enjoy the fun of sometimes coming up with suggestions off the cuff, thinking a bit more about them and seeing like-minded contributions. The blog will not return. At the time we closed the blog we had a maximum of 20 people contributing – and in the main there were about 10 who took part regularly. It had become an area that new people felt they couldn’t contribute to, concerned that their choices or suggestions would be interrogated by a few. We took the decision that the interactive element of the show was better served by Facebook and Twitter, along with email, text and phone calls.
The BBC offers plenty programmes where people can hear left field and less popular tracks including our own nightly specialist shows - Get it On will continue to be a mainstream programme which offers an entry point for our evening music schedule, you will continue to hear popular tracks you love. We hope you will all continue to feel you can participate on the programme, but we would ask that respect for those choices of our listeners who have put as much effort and thought into their suggestions as you do yourself is maintained."
this prompted a flurry of 'we love GIO, it's the best programme in the world, p*** off you moaning bloggers' comments.
It kicked off this time last week... I went off on one re Fridays "fantasy" theme & they came back with a challenge, ping pong then ensued surrounding genre / "sub" genre themes. Fast forward to Wednesday, Prog Night. Now bear in mind "they" were already on a high state of alert wee Vic was rude to our Billy in Alloa re his questioning of Rainbow's inclusion in the show, in the background myself, Glen & Henri were all occasionally piping away. The response to Prog on Farcebook was outstanding in excess of 133 hits with several individuals stating their appreciation to differing degrees, I then lobbed in "Bring back the Blog... GIO benefits from interaction"... Subsequent posts were then moderated, particularly a response to Glen's Quorn / Queen gag. Still keeping up? Then on Thursday b.t.w. The Prog show was poor & full of anomalies ... I received an anonymous unsolicited rambling e-mail taking exception to the bring back the blog post, fair enough I thought as I had posted the obviously offending statement based on the Prog response but was disappointed nobody put their name to it. I then shared what had happened here with Billy & Glen then about 22:00 "they" went public with what they sent me that afternoon... sycophantic outpouring then ensued with Frank and me supported by Julie & Henry defending the ridiculous comment made by GIO that we instigated the blogs demise! This thread swelled like a Mellon only for some numb nut at PQ sensing victory posted a thanks for the support of what could best be described as the flock... Again Frank, Julie, Gaie & Henri eloquently presented their cases with Glen and I being a little more pointed.
Get it on I think is in meltdown over it's restricting policy of repeat themes, playlist & conversation ideas & it's unequivocal resistance to development of the show.
In celebration we're talking of a night out in Glasgow's Rock Garden ;-)
the Henri Hannah Shuffle Show... who knows, after a couple of years messing about it's being made in a proper studio called the Hub at Pacific Quay over the 4 weeks and then we'll see. .
If it doesn't go where we want it, we'll put it out elsewhere.
It's a fairly unconventional show, which is all I can say about it at the moment - I would welcome all my blogging peers as part of the show's posse.
How long will the programme continue without BB? His ambitions appear to be elsewhere.
I listen mainly on Alison Again at least then I can skip over the parts that are unedifying. It's good to hear the occasional surprising track and I'll try to continue to request less obvious songs for our hero to ignore.
The Devil Went Down To Georgia?
ReplyDeleteBrad Paisley - Bid play arse
DeleteIs it true Senga was let down, HH?
ReplyDeleteShe was extremely disappointed.
DeleteFirst time for a while that I heard the full show. I quite enjoyed it. Am i mellowing in my old age?
ReplyDelete
DeleteThat's me and Vic feeneeshed! Bad enough not getting a song played, (from a pure dead brilliant selection, by the way!), but to then be credited with a song I didn't ask for is too much. Vic has pulled this shit on me before. I ain't gonna take it no more!
I was gonna quote Norrie, but then Norrie would have to moderate Norrie's quote, thus putting Norrie in an awkward position. So, as a favour to Norrie, I won't even mention it. Neither Ah will...
Put down the gun , Scotch - he's not worth it.
DeleteLooking forward to Gong tomorrow night (;-)
ReplyDeleteIt's PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI you want to hear tomorrow ;-)
DeleteMe...
DeleteMan
Brinsley Schwarz
Magic Michael aka (Michael Cousins)
Hawkwind
King Crimson
Yes
Tull
ELP
Brinsley Schwarz are about as prog as ABBA
DeleteAh.. I had a PFM album circa 75/76? It was rather good, good keyboards if I remember correctly. I also had a Greenslade album I was fond of but it's deleted now.
DeleteAgreed Glen but would the vast majority of GIO listeners realise that, I'd doubt it very much. Plus it's what I like.
DeleteOne man's prog rock is another man's reggae
DeleteKeep the faith Faither.
DeleteHenri I recall back in the day it being announced in Sounds that Pete Sinfield had signed PFM to Manticore & effectively making them stablemates with ELP.
ReplyDeleteAnybody going to see Wakemans Journey to the Centre of the Earth?
ReplyDeleteNo, but I'd be happy to see him off.
DeleteIs he going to see Magma?
DeleteThey did a prog night once before when our hero was off - it was a fiasco as they kept on cutting the tracks. Vic keeps on saying he "likes a bit of prog" but produces spectacularly poor evidence to support it.
ReplyDeleteIt'll be another fiasco - still, there's always the prospect of Ella getting another outing.
I'm optimistic about tonight but I think that you will probably be right.
DeleteIt's flushed out a few with specialised tastes.
DeleteThe other listeners are having a night off (;-)
DeleteNo loss there then but I think Davy Hay ??? is messin' with our minds!
DeleteAh good old EZ has pitched in!
DeleteDavy Hay??
Billy??? Good chance for prog rockers Queen.
DeleteOf course. Why should tonight be any different?
DeleteAye Billy D'oh
DeleteNo you Billy but Billy Hay
DeleteGlad that's settled. Haven't heard Rainbow for a while.
DeleteNobody talks to a blogger like that Billy. I'll speak to him.
DeleteIncensed of Alloa!!
DeleteHe'll pay for it. I'll use......sarcasm.
DeleteThanks for your support Glen!
DeleteNot a big Radiohead fan then?
ReplyDeleteLiving in the fecking past!!
ReplyDeleteYouse were warned. i didn't hear it and shall await the palylist but it'll be a collection of singles issued to draw attention to albums - seldom what the album is about. ther has never been a prog night or any airplay for jethro tull on GIO that was other than 'living In the fecking past".
ReplyDeleteThe trouble is, as soon as you complain it only seems to highlight how appropriate the song is.
You're right. Sadder and wiser.......................
DeleteSadder but not wiser (:-)
DeleteNow this isn't directed at anybody but I celebrating 27 years married to Madame Popkiss & therefore a little merry... " but your wise men don't know how it feels... "
DeleteI'm worried that The Proclaimers may be interpreted as folk music!
ReplyDeleteDebbie Harry is defiinitely 'roots' (;-)
ReplyDeleteDon't worry Billy Saturdays rant on Farcebook has been vindicated. We seem to have poked the wasps nest with a big stick... 133 comments for a genre such as Prog, who'd have believed it.
ReplyDeleteBut half of them were yours...
DeleteDo you think they'll notice?
DeleteMaybe you should have some pseudonyms (;-)
DeleteSome what?
DeleteIs that why they've moderated me twice tonight with regard to my Quorn response to Faither?
DeleteSorry Madmac
DeleteBTW I've been on site several times recent in Denny... nae sign o' Frank.
DeleteAt least it sparked a bit of debate which is no bad thing. You seem to have been de-moderated again btw.
DeleteMorrissey's auto biography arrived this morning - I was momentarily jubilant, thinking this will surprise and edify.I'll be taken aback, I thought, delighted.
ReplyDeleteI only got half way down the first page when I stopped: it's all true, he really is a miserable bastard.Or a Lennonesque self publicist.
This is no page turner, written in 'clever' convoluted and sometimes impeneterable English - and as I say, I'm half way through page 1. Last time I read anything like this was when Pat Kane used to write for The Glasgiow Herald.
Penguin 'classic' - error of judgement there.
I'll have another go tonight, it's going to be a a long slow cumbersome read.
autobiography, that is.. maybe I was right the first time....
ReplyDeleteThey say the first paragraph is two and a half pages long.
DeleteIt is good though I think some of the punctuation and spelling is a bit off.
DeleteYou would know.
DeleteI see Billy got an on-air apology of sorts.
Yes I heard (:-)
ReplyDeleteBilly get's an apology & the Mac has apparently been shown a yellow by
ReplyDeleteSorry 'bout that... an anonymous GIO official.
ReplyDeleteAt least it's not a red card!
DeleteIt might as well have been. They're so conceited and polarised in their vision for their programme... think I'll contact Jeremy Vine.
DeleteBring back the blog... GIO benefits from interaction.... I'm the evil Pied Piper having stated the obvious.
ReplyDeleteThere's more conversation and dissent on Facebook now - just the way we like it.
DeleteI'm still in the sin bin.
DeleteI was advised this afternoon that the bloggers brought about the closing of the blog
DeleteHow did that happen?
DeleteFarcebook has 6k we only had 20, 10 which were regulars apparently
DeleteBut how many of these 6k are regulars? I would say less than 10 if you don't count former bloggers.
DeleteYour correct but Agent Provocateur may draw attention of the Beeb's Serious and Organised Crime Agency
DeleteI liked the Martyn Bennett track - did Henri pick it?
ReplyDeleteNo his shout was Lindisfarne.
DeleteThat Martyn Bennett track was mince!
DeleteIt's growing on me though...
DeleteI requested Martyn Bennett but not that track.In the end they went for Lindisfarne.I didn't hear the show.
DeleteOne man's mince is another man's lasagne.
DeleteThey've gone public see Farcebook.
ReplyDeleteAch, it was good whilst it lasted ;-)
That's me blacklisted for ever now Jx
DeleteSome excellent words from Frank.
ReplyDeleteWell said Frank.
Delete
DeleteThis'll be the same blog which, mere weeks before its demise, was lauded by Bryan Burnett as "the backbone of the show."
Now it seems that those who refuse to succumb to the Dark Side have no voice, dissenting or otherwise.
Well, I ain't going down that road. If the show hasn't realised its true potential, there is a very good (and very obvious) reason.
Pandering to the majority doesn't lift us up, it drags us down.
We don't even know if it's the majority, it's just those on FB. Pure hunners (according to their listening figures) don't make any input at all. They're probably harassedly making tea, getting the kids ready for Brownies and chanter practice, wishing someone would take the dog out and vaguely wondering why they're hearing that same **** song yet again, asking themselves why everyone else is apparently settling down to a gourmet meal and a bottle of wine while at their house it's Tuesday, mince & tatties and a battle to get the kids to eat some broccoli. Way too pre-occupied to even consider doing anything about the crap music on the radio. Or else they're on their way home, stuck in traffic and trying to keep calm , wishing someone would destroy radio Scotland's entire stock of Queen songs but sure as hell not about to settle down to a spot of texting or facebooking to complain about it when they get home and dinner's on the table or isn't even started.
DeleteThe smug complacency of the producers is a thing to behold, and of course is encouraged by the sycophancy of those who wish to remain on the favoured listener list. I'd be astonished if BB really enjoys presenting the same old songs and themes over and over and over again.
Yes...good succinct stuff Frank. Could you please request 'If I Could Only Be Sure' by Nolan Porter, 'The Rat' by The Walkmen and anything by Pokey Lafarge please cos they sure as hell won't entertain any of my requests now ;o) J from E x
ReplyDeleteThanks Frank, Julie & Henri... I've posted my last will & testament as far as I'm concerned.
ReplyDeletetime for a wake, folks? Hard Rock Glasgow?
ReplyDeleteYou been sleeping?
DeleteOn Rum. Heaven.
DeleteI should probably go back, wouldn't have to read such nonsense on FB as 'GIO's so diverse, they had Jolene and Walk the Line on the other night'
I heard none of this week's 'genre' funfest.
DeleteIt was the inner hebrides for me.........with the disgraceful sound of the shooters out early morning all guests at island house.....occasional residence of the duke but as often full of bird hunters...they kill geese , pheasant, snipe.....then drive round the island with the dead birds on open display sometimes tied to the back of the lackie's jeep....once a bad shot burst a water pipe...sad example of humanity and the ruling class.
cheers frae the dale
Just finished Barrowland book - worth putting on your Christmas list as a wee stocking-filler or light relief if accompanied by Ian Bell's Dylan tome.
ReplyDeleteIt's now on my list (:-)
DeleteA nite oot is on mine ;-)
DeleteI wasn't aware of a barrowland book- by whom - can I one click - it'll be more fun than Morrissey hopefully.
Deletehere, Henri
DeleteSo looking at facebok am I right in thinking they are bringing back the blog?
ReplyDeleteThere have been some very negative comments right here on our very own notblog. I may have to ban you all and set up a notthenothegetitonblog page on facebook
ReplyDeleteCan you not just ditch the connection to that particular programme & re-name it Norrie's Blog ;-)
DeleteAh kain!
Delete
ReplyDeleteMONDAY
Ross MacFadyen plays Annie Lennox.
Why does it always rain on Ross?
DeleteI've not seen so much blood on a page since page 117 of MacILvanney on Boxing which is the page I'm at just now.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised at the tone GIO has taken with the Blog with its maximum of 20 but more usually 10 inhabitants - that scathing remark seems to be at odds with the programmes inclusive nature - but play the 'numbers game' - often the members of the blog offered multiple choices, sometimes maybe even 20 each of a weekend which amounts to hundreds of suggestions; long before it became fashionable over on f/b.
No good will come of this little spat - I say as a BBC stakeholder - the issue of switching off doesn't sit with the financial input I have with the BBC.
I'm not even so sure that BB has such an input into the music - not by the comments anyway.
cheers frae the dale
For those of us who do not have a F*c* book account, can sumdy tell us wits gawn on? Is there tae be a Nothegetitonfekkbook page?
ReplyDeleteWe need tae be telt
*sigh* it's just as well I'm a master of cut & paste - here's what they said:
Delete"There have been several comments on here over the last few days about the music choices on the show – first of all we want to let you all know how much we value and appreciate all the efforts you go to make the show the success it is. It is important though that those who are looking for the programme to move in a different direction appreciate what Get it On is all about.
The ‘prog’ theme is of course like many themes open to the interpretation of our listeners and I am sure we could all sit round a table in the pub and debate for several hours the merits of artists included in the playlist. Every track we play has been requested by someone listening and each of them requests something that is a favourite to them.
We are of the firm belief that music is …music – it’s not good or bad, right or wrong, it’s just music. We all enjoy different styles and artists and wouldn’t the world be boring if we all loved the same thing. In addition this is a popular, mainstream music programme and by its very nature will play popular tracks. From time to time a theme will dictate that there are more obscure, less mainstream tracks, but this is not the backbone of our show. We want all the family to take part – and they do. We are as delighted to hear from a young person asking for One Direction as we are from someone asking for some Scottish tracks from our past or a bit of ‘cheesy pop’.
We have over 6000 followers on Facebook, we reach over 8000 people a week on Facebook. We believe you enjoy the fun of sometimes coming up with suggestions off the cuff, thinking a bit more about them and seeing like-minded contributions.
The blog will not return. At the time we closed the blog we had a maximum of 20 people contributing – and in the main there were about 10 who took part regularly. It had become an area that new people felt they couldn’t contribute to, concerned that their choices or suggestions would be interrogated by a few. We took the decision that the interactive element of the show was better served by Facebook and Twitter, along with email, text and phone calls.
The BBC offers plenty programmes where people can hear left field and less popular tracks including our own nightly specialist shows - Get it On will continue to be a mainstream programme which offers an entry point for our evening music schedule, you will continue to hear popular tracks you love. We hope you will all continue to feel you can participate on the programme, but we would ask that respect for those choices of our listeners who have put as much effort and thought into their suggestions as you do yourself is maintained."
this prompted a flurry of 'we love GIO, it's the best programme in the world, p*** off you moaning bloggers' comments.
Morning DC, last we heard you were in Lardos.
DeleteIt kicked off this time last week... I went off on one re Fridays "fantasy" theme & they came back with a challenge, ping pong then ensued surrounding genre / "sub" genre themes.
Fast forward to Wednesday, Prog Night. Now bear in mind "they" were already on a high state of alert wee Vic was rude to our Billy in Alloa re his questioning of Rainbow's inclusion in the show, in the background myself, Glen & Henri were all occasionally piping away.
The response to Prog on Farcebook was outstanding in excess of 133 hits with several individuals stating their appreciation to differing degrees, I then lobbed in "Bring back the Blog... GIO benefits from interaction"... Subsequent posts were then moderated, particularly a response to Glen's Quorn / Queen gag.
Still keeping up?
Then on Thursday b.t.w. The Prog show was poor & full of anomalies ... I received an anonymous unsolicited rambling e-mail taking exception to the bring back the blog post, fair enough I thought as I had posted the obviously offending statement based on the Prog response but was disappointed nobody put their name to it.
I then shared what had happened here with Billy & Glen then about 22:00 "they" went public with what they sent me that afternoon... sycophantic outpouring then ensued with Frank and me supported by Julie & Henry defending the ridiculous comment made by GIO that we instigated the blogs demise!
This thread swelled like a Mellon only for some numb nut at PQ sensing victory posted a thanks for the support of what could best be described as the flock... Again Frank, Julie, Gaie & Henri eloquently presented their cases with Glen and I being a little more pointed.
Get it on I think is in meltdown over it's restricting policy of repeat themes, playlist & conversation ideas & it's unequivocal resistance to development of the show.
In celebration we're talking of a night out in Glasgow's Rock Garden ;-)
Jeeezy peeps! This eclipses the Ersekain brig debacle.
DeleteWhat a shame, this show has so much potential.
When is the Henri Hannah Radio Show starting?
ReplyDeleteIf I present a Banana Loaf could I be part of the shows posse?
Deletethe Henri Hannah Shuffle Show... who knows, after a couple of years messing about it's being made in a proper studio called the Hub at Pacific Quay over the 4 weeks and then we'll see. .
DeleteIf it doesn't go where we want it, we'll put it out elsewhere.
It's a fairly unconventional show, which is all I can say about it at the moment - I would welcome all my blogging peers as part of the show's posse.
nuj rates
Deletecheers frae the dale
If I donate £1000 to Bloggers In Need can I be guest presenter?
DeleteLebanese Pounds?
DeleteLooking forward to it!
Deletetheme...........'civil wars'
ReplyDeletecheers frae the dale
Go on & suggest it LOL
Deletemore themes.............'numbers' (Clyde1 has 79015 likes!! explain)
Deletecheers frae the dale
I hope you lot are ashamed of the way you've upset a hardworking team who are doing their best.
ReplyDeleteBut as Dale says, we are paying for the show and have every right to comment.
Too right
DeleteFrankindenny is back recording with his old band again.
ReplyDeleteA couple of tracks on soundcloud but you'll have to be quick as they won't be up for long
https://soundcloud.com/no_name-yet/track-1
https://soundcloud.com/no_name-yet/track-2
these are great
DeleteThanks Paolo. Very good especially track 2.
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ReplyDeleteHow long will the programme continue without BB? His ambitions appear to be elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteI listen mainly on Alison Again at least then I can skip over the parts that are unedifying. It's good to hear the occasional surprising track and I'll try to continue to request less obvious songs for our hero to ignore.
Any thoughts on dates for a blog get together?